GERMANY: Hannelore Kohl
Randy Black said: Christopher Jones: Face the facts: Germany started the war, no one else. Have the Germans offered compensation for the 20-30 million Russians that they murdered? I think not. Christopher retorts: Randy Black: face the facts: you are morally wrong, just like your defense of the crimes at Abu Ghraib. It seems that Mr Black thinks its just "letting off a little steam" to justify gang rapes. I wonder if would have had the courage to say that into the face of one of the victims, Mrs Helmut Kohl for example, who incidentally killed herself like so many of these victims. As for Germany starting the war, I should add that Josef Stalin was very happy to tell French communists not to resist the Germans when they invaded the country so Russia is also partly responsible as an accomplice for the war in the west.
RH: I have slightly abridged Christopher's statement because the two are talking at cross purposes. However, his statement that Hannelore Kohl committed suicide allegedly because she was gang raped deserves attention. Here is a BBC account of her death: The wife of former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Hannelore, has committed suicide at the age of 68, according to a statement from Mr Kohl's office. Mrs Kohl had suffered for several years from a serious skin disease that made her sensitive to daylight and forced her to remain indoors most of the time. "Despair at the state of her health led her to end her life of her own free will," said the statement issued hours after Mrs Kohl's body was found early on Thursday in her home in Ludwigshafen, western Germany. Hannelore Kohl was married to modern Germany's longest-serving leader, and was by his side throughout the dramatic events following the fall of the Berlin Wall. A tiny blonde figure next to her husband, she was once dismissed by cynics as the "Barbie of the Rhineland" for her stiff hairspray and high-collared blouses. But although shy of the limelight she helped her husband battle - in vain - to avoid election defeat by Gerhard Schroeder "Once you've got Kohl, you've got him for a long time," she said during the 1998 campaign.
Helmut Kohl was out of office after 16 years, and within a year he was at the centre of party funding scandal that wrecked his reputation. But Hannelore supported him. Hannelore Kohl supported Helmut through his career "We survived World War II. We will also cope with this... I stand by my man," she told a newspaper. But she said the parliamentary and criminal investigations into irregular campaign donations had left her longing for a quiet life. The couple met when she was just 15 and he 18. They wed 12 years later, in 1960, after Mr Kohl wooed Hannelore, with, she said, more than 2,000 love letters. They had two sons. Mrs Kohl was active in charity causes and chaired an association that helps accident victims with brain disorders to rehabilitate. A few years ago she authored a cookbook with her husband. However, in her final years, she was rarely seen in public and had withdrawn from political life. Her skin disease prevented her from attending her younger son Peter's marriage in Turkey at the end of May. Doctors in Germany and abroad had failed to alleviate the extremely rare ailment, the statement said. The statement from Mr Kohl's office said she had conveyed her decision to take her life in farewell letters to her husband, her sons and friends.
Hannelore Kohl was born in the Palatinate region of western Germany, and grew up in Leipzig, where she lived until the end of WWII. She worked as an interpreter in French and English.
RH: This and other sources say that she committed suicide because of her skin problem and because of the charges against her husband. There is no mention of her having been gang raped. Perhaps Christopher knows something I do not.
Regarding the suicide of Hannelore, the wife of Helmut Kohl, Christopher Jones said she had been a victim of gang rapes by Russian soldiers. I said: RH: Sources say that she committed suicide because of her skin problem and because of the charges against her husband. There is no mention of her having been gang raped. Perhaps Christopher knows something I do not. He replies: You have my word that it is common knowledge in journalistic circles in Germany that Hannelore Kohl was one of the -- millions -- of victims. It is only one tragedy among so many tragic stories, for which the Russians are responsible. They show the real face of the Slav-soldier just like the Serbs in Bosnia. Of course, nobody can say if this played a part in her suicide because I do not believe she left any note, and if, it was certainly not made public. Some things are still, thank God, not part of the public domain. By the way, this is documented in Milovan Djilas' Conversations with Stalin (the mass rapes, not the particular instance of the crime against Fr Kohl). Stalin called his order to rape, "just letting them blow off a little steam," to the horror of the idealistic Marxist Djilas.
RH: "Common knowledge"? Are historians right in demanding documentary proof? Perhaps Germanist Jim Tent has some comment.
Ronald Hilton 2004
February 27, 2005